Talk about me good, talk about me bad, just talk
about me! Thanks to all my loyal readers for
your support, great comments, and suggestions.

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Subj: Mr Dune Speaks Out Feb. 2000
Date: 2/3/00 2:36:09 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: JKimball@bns.nec.com (Kimball, James)
To: mrdune@off-road.com ('mrdune@off-road.com') Well said in the February issue of off-road regarding the punks who choose to try to destroy this great sport of ours. Our recreation areas are limited as it is and I'll be damned to stand by and allow the selfless few take advantage and destroy what we have come to cherish for so long. This is not playground for all of the romper room children out there. You're right, start kicking a few punk asses and get the sport and our recreation areas back. James Kimball

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Subj: I whole heartedly agree with you
Date: 2/3/00 1:37:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: joebe@Attachmate.com (Joe Belsha)
To: mrdune@off-road.com ('mrdune@off-road.com') It's about time that I started seeing someone other than myself encouraging the decent folk to take back control of their neighborhoods and play areas. I for one, do believe in the old fashioned art of kicking the shit out of juvenile delinquent punks. Discipline works. Keep on encouraging people to take back control of their lives. Maybe some more people will get on board with the program and life will get better for all of us. Thank you,
Joe Belsha

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Subj: DUI Check Point
Date: 10/14/1999 12:53:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: mike.kim.kammer@worldnet.att.net (Mike & Kim Kammer)
To: MrDune@aol.com

Mr. "D",
I would like to take this opportunity to point out "Officer Friendly", and crew, last year, during several nights of the Thanksgiving holiday, were seen on the west side of wash twelve waiting to give the DUI test to anyone coming through from Boardmanville. Due to the arrangement of at least four vehicles, running would be out of the question! The element of surprise caught more than two people that I saw. My suggestion would be to avoid wash twelve on the homeward trip at all costs! "Samimike" Kammer ALSO: Be careful at wash 10! A trick I use is to apprach the tracks at an angle, and peek over the tracks to see if the BLM is there... Dune

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Subj: Re: [ZJ] Bill Clinton - A Despot to Off-Roaders
Date: 10/13/99 2:29:09 AM
From: hmbrc@lucernevalley.net (Marie Brashear)
To: ren@moab.off-road.com
CC: mrdune@aol.com Mr. Dune you are so correct. Unless David is willing to live naked, in the dark in a cave he is a user of resources. It always seems they forget that what isn't grown is mined. Marie MrDune@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 10/12/99 2:41:43 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
A100prcent@aol.com writes: > > Do we really have to live up to the bubba beer swilling redneck image just because we drive four wheel drive trucks? How about some intelligent responses here? > > Mr Dune's response....
> Yes, you self important moron I'm a bubba, beer swilling, gun toting redneck that spins my wheels in creek beds and flattens the Pork-Bellied Red-Eyed endangered Trout with reckless abandon, and you dear sir are a hypocrite. You live in a house made of wood cut from those very forests, you drive a car made from steel that comes from smoke belching mills in Pittsburgh or Iron Mountain. I would go on but you are simply beneath me and my "redneck" mentality. The fact is that you or any "environmentalist" that owns anything manufactured anywhere and doesn't live in an agrerian commune in the woods and forage naked for their food is also a hypocrite. Wake up, I see the only viable alternative for you is to either give everything you own to me and return to the forest where you can exercise your ideals or eat a gun and eliminate your pitiful hypocritical existance. I enjoy life at the top of the food chain and am glad to idly swat a lame one off the back of the herd and feel their bones crush between my teeth. > BTW here's this guys AOL profile: > Member Name: DAVID
> Location: Issaquah, WA
> Sex: Male
> Marital Status: Single
> Hobbies: hiking, camping, horse back riding, driving/fixing fast and slow cars, talking and dancing
> Occupation: computers
> Personal Quote: friends first and last
>
> Sounds like a geek to me... No wonder he's single.
> Living on the edge and sucking the marrow out of life in Las Vegas
> Mr. Dune aka "Bubba"
> Editor
> Mr Dune's Sandbox
> www.mrdune.com
>
> Columnist/Asso. Editor
> www.off-road.com
> The Off Road Network
>
> Managing Editor
> At the upcoming
> www.waterweb.com

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Subj: news and info
Date: 10/8/99 6:24:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!
From: safarimobile@earthlink.net (David Hamilton)
To: mrdune@aol.com Mr. Dune,I am so happy to be on the mailing list. I work for Off-Road Magazine and I am a member of the AMA and the Blue Ribbon Coalition, but to get up to the date info is great. I hope that we can turn around the "Closed until posted open" policy. What at bunch of political bullshit. Keep up the good work!!! Thanks, David Hamilton
Los Osos, CA

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Subj: Re: Please, VOTE In this poll
Date: 10/8/99 2:47:01 AM !!!First Boot!!!
From: MsMamoo@aol.com
To: MrDune@aol.com Hey Partner: I just wanted to say I enjoyed your editorial on the LA Slimes. You have a great vernacular and enjoyed the flow of the editorial. If you haven't read it already, Mark Leyner's "Et Tu, Babe" is a great, hilarious and foul (otherwise I wouldn't of read it) book - a style of writing that you may enjoy Stay Tuned, literally.
Greg Lonero
one of the sled guys

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Subj: The Bullshit L.A. Times article
Date: 10/4/99 5:57:51 AM
From: Dawson_clan@email.msn.com (The Dawson's)
To: MrDune@aol.com Mr Dune,
As i am an avid user of your site, when ever i am at work and bored to death and wishing i was cruising my banshee through the dunes with beer in the 6 pack rack, i feel obliged to back you on that outrageously full of bullshit letter that you were speking about this month. As a loyal desert rat,  I also feel obliged to write this fellow and give him a little piece of my mind. So i went searching and found his e-mail address, i wasnt sure if you had it printed with this months, "Mr Dune speaks out". So i was hoping you would print it so more of our fellow dunerats, could get this guy scared shitless with talks of Jack Daniels swilling desert folk, frollicking around his body , as it is being tied to a stake, inside a ring of burning magnesium blocks, and the sporratic sounds of AK's can be heard in the background. Here is the address, it is John.Glionna@latimes.com, in case there are more people like me who want this bullshit stopped!!
See ya thanksgiving!!
Happy Duning Bansheerider

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Subj: users fees
Date: 10/3/99 3:46:44 PM
From: Lunarduner@aol.com
To: mrdune@off-road.com On the subject of users fees. we have them in Oregon and we don't like the misappropriation of funds either. so here is what we have done to make sure that the money stays on the ground. we have the land managers give us accounting records quarterly. this allows us to keep track of the users fees collected by them and keeps them accountable. and we deduct the amount of money they collect from the amount of sticker funds they receive i have found that the environmental and government agencies thrive off from conflict. I say to heck with the hassle of conflict (personally it takes away from my riding time). Hit them right where it is hitting you, the wallet. if they collect $50,000 deduct it through different projects that amount and make them keep the money on the ground in order for them to keep working. Most of this is done on a local level. Most of the people who work in an area usually live near by and do not look forward to losing their job and lively hood. In you don't fund some of there projects they have to let people go. no work no job. My suggestion to you is keep your cool, use your intelligence, and remember to kick em in the wallet. you as a user group hold a lot of power you just need to know how and when to use it User at large In Oregon

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Subj: Dune mismanagement
Date: 98-03-24 21:56:56 EST
From: jmakin@quix.net (John Makin)
To: ebriggs@ca.blm.gov
CC: mrdune@off-road.com Ms Briggs,
As a concerned citizen and Westmorland City Councilman elect, I would like to voice my opposition to your scheme to reduce the recreational population at the Glamis Dunes. There are numerous businesses in Imperial County that make a large share of their income on this recreational traffic. I really cannot believe that you have conducted a competent study on the impact of your arbitrary decisions. It was certainly kind of you to speak with only those people sympathetic with your ideas. I intend to form some kind of local action group to wage an equitable opposition to your (and the Bureacracy for which you stand) ideas to further isolate and conquer those to whom you allege to serve. In short, you will sooner or later answer to those whom you have forsaken and who happen to fund your paycheck.
Respectfully,
John Makin
jmakin@quix.net Forwarded Message:
Subj: thanks
Date: 98-03-18 18:38:34 EST
From: BEERBUDDHA@aol.com
To: ebriggs@ca.blm.gov Elayn,
I first wanted to thank you for returning my e-mail, and I hope that this doesnt sound too harsh. This last weekend, I asked a BLM Ranger, about the fee charge. She informed me that they wanted to start charging by Easter. I cant belive that you didnt even attempt to remedy the situation, through other means. Id like to thank you for asking our opinion about the fees. It made us feel like we actually had a say, and that you really were going to give us an opportunity to make a difference. It amazes me, how you can say that we need to pay for land use. I have read to many ideas from other people, to believe that the charge is necessary. I guess I dont count though, because im supposed to be asking for more bathrooms, and larger pads.. I'm sure someday, we can make the whole place blacktop, and all run street tires on our bikes.
Thanks for listening....
Wayne

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Subj: User Fees in the Dunes
Date: 98-02-26 17:01:39 EST
From: jerry.canning@rss.rockwell.com
To: ebriggs@ca.blm.gov
CC: MISTERDUNE@aol.com Hello Ms. Briggs
You may recall, I sent you an e mail approximately 3 weeks ago concerning
the topic of possibly implementing user fees in the Imperial Sand Dunes. I
trust you received and read my message. I was hoping to have received a
reply; to read your comments on some of my ideas and thoughts that I
brought to your attention. However, I have not heard anything from you as
to a reply. Yes, you are correct, I didn't specifically request a reply, but its
usually a normal response most people would offer. At least a thank you
would have been better than a blank screen. Now, I hear that the BLM has
made up its mind on this issue and its going to go forward with the fees.
Were any public comments solicited, seriously considered and addressed by
the Bureau? How in the heck is the Bureau going to implement and enforce
the plan, there must be hundreds of ways people can access the dunes? Where
in the heck are all the Green Sticker funds! I still feel that my comments
and concerns have merit and I wish that you or a representative of the BLM
would comment on them. How about the alternatives to collecting an entrance
fee? Have they been considered? I could go on and on, but I don't want to waste your time, nor mine. I
have been a loyal and careful user of the dunes for over 15 years, enjoying
the freedom and serenity that they offer all visitors. I will not sit idly
and see a fee program set up without the public's honest involvement.
Please, take the moment of time to review my previous mail and respond to
me with the Bureau's position. Thank you,
Jerry Canning

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Subj: Imperial Dunes Fees
Date: 98-03-03 16:37:20 EST
From: r37797@email.sps.mot.com (Jeff Catlin)
To: ebriggs@ca.blm.gov
CC: mrdune@off-road.com Dear Ms. Briggs,
As an avid user of the Imperial Sand Dunes Recreation Area I feel compelled to
voice my opinions on the subject of Day Use Fees for the area. Day use fees are a common occurrence in many outdoor activities that Americans
enjoy. Many of my fellow Dune riders and I enjoy boating. Most lakes and
reservoirs charge a fee for using the ramps and parking facilities. This is in
addition to the registration fees the state charges for boats and Personal
Water craft. I pay these "Use" fees with no hesitation because it is obvious
to me that the "Use" fees go toward rest rooms, parking, and boat ramp
improvements while the registration fees are used for State and Local law
enforcement vehicles and manpower. This distinction between the 2 types of
fees is clearly stated and easily observed. Herein lies my reservations about
"Use" fees in the Dunes. First we come to the California Green Sticker program. This "Registration" is
designated to be used by the State to maintain and improve trails and access
to Off-road enthusiasts, whereas boating registration funds are utilized to
support Law enforcement and safety. So I find a contradiction in the proposal
for Day Use fees at the Dunes to Improve conditions, when that is what
Californians pay $15/year per vehicle to accomplish. If you need more, ask
for more. Secondly, when a person violates the law on a State waterway, the citation is
given by a sworn officer of the law, not a Park Ranger. If I am causing danger
to myself and others around me, a low officer should be the person who imposes
corrective action, not a Land Management official. Why should funding be
allocated to Land Management for equipment and personnel to maintain order and
safety when it is not their charter? I will gladly accept a ticket from a BLM
Ranger for improper use of the land and natural resources, but if I am stopped
for riding without a helmet, the BLM really has no Jurisdiction. I accept
paying for law enforcement to serve and protect and I will gladly pay for the
BLM to provide a clean environment, but I refuse to pay the BLM to do the
Sheriff's job while neglecting it's own charter. Next point of order, using funds to improve camping and sanitation facilities.
The Dunes provide us with a very hostile and formidable climate. To adapt to
this wasteland, we (Duners) have compensated by spending lots of money on
Motorhomes, Enclosed trailers, and other camping equipment to survive with no
civilized conveniences. In other words, we don't really need more rest rooms,
hook-ups, etc. What would really be a godsend, however, would be increased
concrete pads for larger motorhomes and larger groups as well as dumping
stations for our septic systems so that we don't have to drive our waste to
Brawley or El Centro. If there was a dumping station at each of the main
entrance/exits, the BLM could raise a fair amount of supplemental funds by
charging standard rates for disposal. This leads me to a very important point,
a large percentage of Duners are Tradesmen. Rather than charge us, and turn
right around and pay a government contractor's marked up price for
constructing something we may not want, why not ask for our assistance? Our
community holds a wealth of knowledge and industrialism. I'm sure any number
of off-road clubs would sponsor materials for a volunteer group of fellow
duners to pour another Pad off Gecko Road, or a fellow Duner could donate
equipment time for digging holes for dumping stations, or grading the whoops
in front of the Store, the possibilities are endless. So instead of asking
for Money, try asking for something everybody can afford, HELP. I hope I have given a calm rational view of what many of my friends and
colleagues get very emotional about. I apologize for the length, but there are
not enough of us speaking out so those who do need to cover a lot. Thank you
for taking the time to read this and feel free to comment on any of the topics
I have touched. Sincerely,
Jeff Catlin

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Subj: Glamis Use Fees
Date: 98-03-03 02:21:37 EST
From: jarvisfam@earthlink.net (Jeff Jarvis)
To: mrdune@off-road.com Mr. Dune
What the hell is this bullshit??? I sent that BLM lady my thoughts. Please keep me updated. Fellow free american dune lover! For now! jeff

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Date: 98-03-19 00:23:55 EST
From: bazerk@email.msn.com (adam)
To: MISTERDUNE@aol.com (MISTERDUNE) Is it just me or is the government trying to screw us quad riders over. It
seems like every time I look over my shoulder they are taking away our quads
either because they make to much pollution or some people drunk off their
ass got on a 3-wheeler and broke an arm. How can they try to blame us
"off-roaders" for the massive pollution problems we are facing in the
pollution. For the whole year of people riding at Glamis may equal the two
weeks of that great L.A. air we all love so much. That good ol' government
of ours just does this so they can say they have "tryed" to cut back on
pollution. And as for people getting on ATC's after drinking more than
humanly possible and either hurting or killing themselves is not our
(off-roaders) fault. Why is it that we seem to continually get screwed. I
can only imagine what the ATV'ing world would be without all these major
screw-ups. If their is anyone out there that is with me, send me a letter
and we'll personally go spin some brody's on the White house lawn, then
drink until we throw up and sew the crap out of the government. Why not
everybody else is. Keep riding and take it easy,
Hope you like it later
Adam (a.k.a. Bazerk)

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Subj: i want to be part of it!!!!!
Date: 98-01-15 10:28:10 EST
From: LBZRIDR@AOL.COM (LBZ RIDR)
To: mrdune@off-road.com Mr Dune,
Hello!!!! after reading your New Years resolutions......I now believe
that a Savior has returned. What you wrote was very inspiring to me. I fully
believe in everything you wrote, and Iback You up 100%. I myself will be there
this weekend for the Great Glamis Clean Up Day. And I hope to meet you in
person. Its people like you that make the world a better place. Thanks for
being an inspiration to others.
A Glamis Buddy >Praise like that makes even a crusty old cynic like me blush. Hardly a Savior, maybe a prophet, certainly a Mad Monk!.....Ed

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